Climatgate debate erupts in angry words and slurs

One day after reports that Britain’s Met office intends to reexamine 160 years’ worth of temperature data, emotions over what’s now being dubbed “Climategate” are getting more raw by the day.

During a live television faceoff hosted by the BBC, Marc Morano, a former communications director of the U.S. Senate Environment Committee and now an editor with the Web site Climate Depot squared off against Professor Andrew Watson of the University of East Anglia in eastern England. It didn’t take long before the two got in each other’s face and Watson became increasingly annoyed with Morano’s loud interruptions. He finally lost it by the end when the anchor thanked the participants.

“What an asshole,” Watson said.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/05/blogs/coopscorner/entry5905404.shtml

The Fiction Of Climate Science: 1975 the coming Ice Age

Gary Sutton

Why the climatologists get it wrong.

Many of you are too young to remember, but in 1975 our government pushed “the coming ice age.”

Random House dutifully printed “THE WEATHER CONSPIRACY … coming of the New Ice Age.” This may be the only book ever written by 18 authors. All 18 lived just a short sled ride from Washington, D.C. Newsweek fell in line and did a cover issue warning us of global cooling on April 28, 1975. And The New York Times, Aug. 14, 1976, reported “many signs that Earth may be headed for another ice age.”

In 1974, the National Science Board announced: “During the last 20 to 30 years, world temperature has fallen, irregularly at first but more sharply over the last decade. Judging from the record of the past interglacial ages, the present time of high temperatures should be drawing to an end…leading into the next ice age

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http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/03/climate-science-gore-intelligent-technology-sutton.html

Copenhagen climate summit: 1,200 limos, 140 private planes and caviar wedges

On a normal day, Majken Friss Jorgensen, managing director of Copenhagen’s biggest limousine company, says her firm has twelve vehicles on the road. During the “summit to save the world”, which opens here tomorrow, she will have 200.

“We thought they were not going to have many cars, due to it being a climate convention,” she says. “But it seems that somebody last week looked at the weather report.”

Q&A: the thinking person’s guide Ms Jorgensen reckons that between her and her rivals the total number of limos in Copenhagen next week has already broken the 1,200 barrier. The French alone rang up on Thursday and ordered another 42. “We haven’t got enough limos in the country to fulfil the demand,” she says. “We’re having to drive them in hundreds of miles from Germany and Sweden.”

And the total number of electric cars or hybrids among that number? “Five,” says Ms Jorgensen. “The government has some alternative fuel cars but the rest will be petrol or diesel. We don’t have any hybrids in Denmark, unfortunately, due to the extreme taxes on those cars. It makes no sense at all, but it’s very Danish.”

The airport says it is expecting up to 140 extra private jets during the peak period alone, so far over its capacity that the planes will have to fly off to regional airports – or to Sweden – to park, returning to Copenhagen to pick up their VIP passengers.

Please go here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6736517/Copenhagen-climate-summit-1200-limos-140-private-planes-and-caviar-wedges.html

Analysis: Miles to go on long road to climate deal, (especailly since there is no need)
     
AP – President Barack Obama addresses the Summit on Climate Change at the United Nations Tuesday, Sept. 22, … .By CHARLES J. HANLEY, AP Special Correspondent  – It happened in Rio, in 1992: The world officially woke up to the fact it was getting warmer outside. Seventeen years later in New York, the U.N. gathered presidents and premiers to talk about serious steps to turn down the heat. But the political climate may still be too cool for conclusive action.

In inviting President Barack Obama and other world leaders to Tuesday’s summit on climate change, Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon urged them to “act as global leaders rather than national leaders,” to push climate negotiations forward.

With a mere 76 days to go before a pivotal diplomatic conference, it appeared an interim agreement might be the most that can be expected this December, leaving difficult details for later talks.

Ban’s bid to build momentum for a new climate accord was the latest effort in a long, cumbersome process dating back to the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro.

Leaders converging on the Brazilian city signed on to something unprecedented, a treaty committing them to work “to protect the climate system for present and future generations.”

Scientists had produced persuasive evidence the carbon dioxide, methane and other greenhouse gases that industry, transport and farming were pouring into the atmosphere were trapping heat and raising global temperatures, with potentially damaging effects — droughts, floods, rising sea levels — from a changing climate.

Then-President George H.W. Bush called on fellow summiteers to “join in a prompt start on the convention’s implementation.”

Not promptly, but five years later the world’s nations agreed to add the Kyoto Protocol to the treaty, with its first, modest reductions in emissions by industrialized countries.

The U.S. Senate repudiated the pact, however, and the process entered an eight-year slowdown as a second Bush administration, of President George W., resisted global pressure for deeper concerted action.

The U.S. opponents complained emissions reductions would crimp the American economy, and objected to Kyoto’s excusing of China, India and other poorer countries from having to reduce their energy use.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090922/ap_on_sc/un_un_climate_analysis

face fwd comments:
What BS..,.every knows that the planet has been cooling since ’97.  Due to the lack of sun spots they now say we can expect another 15 years of dramatically cooler temps.  As of today September 22, a huge snow storn has broken out in the front range of the Rockies.  Early, even for there.

I hate to break the tax bubble but, Hey Al Gore, I guess the planet fever, broke

GENEVA — British rock group Duran Duran and heavy metal band Scorpions are among 55 world celebrities who have joined in recording a song to draw attention to the global warming crisis, organisers said on Monday.

The song is part of a mass media campaign on the threats of climate change organised by the Geneva-based Global Humanitarian Forum, headed by former UN secretary general Kofi Annan.

The song entitled “Beds’r Burning”, which was originally recorded by the Australian group Midnight Oil in the 1980s, can be downloaded from the Internet for free and will be presented to the public at a launch in Paris on October 1.

“If we do not stop the (greenhouse gas) emissions today, global warming will be still be with us in 40 to 50 years,” warned Walter Fust, director of the Forum, at a press conference in Geneva.

The media campaign featuring the song is aimed at putting pressure on world leaders to reach an agreement on tackling climate change at a UN-sponsored conference in Copenhagen in December.

Some of the other popular artists who add their voices to the anti-global warming song include French ‘Piaf’ actress Marion Cotillard, Senegalese star Youssou N’dour, Irish singer/composer Bob Geldorf, Chinese singer Khalil Fong, and even a Nobel peace laureate, South African archbishop Desmond Tutu.

Face Fwd Comments: (sarcasm alert)

I think I have a tear welling up in my eye.  If I had only known that musicians cared about the environment so much…….well, I would have…..hmmm I would have…., hold on I’m thinking about it.  Let me get back to you on what I would have done after we go through some of the things musicians are famous for saying:

This is the most fun I’ve had with my pants on. Now if I’d said this is the most fun I’ve had while wearing women’s underwear, we’d be having an entirely different conversation…

Simon Le Bon Duran Duran

Whenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can’t help but cry. I mean I’d love to be skinny like that but not with all those flies and death and stuff.

Mariah Carey

I’m sitting there with my parents, my mom’s sobbing after she finds out that I don’t have the gene (for Cancer) , and I’m like, “Guess what, Mom and Dad, I got my nipples pierced!”

Cassandra Ventura Singer and someone’s girlfriend

“I want to be like Gandhi and Martin Luther King and John Lennon?but I want to stay alive.”

Madonna

“The only reason in the world that I bought a computer was to look up UFO sites.”

Tom DeLonge from Blink 182

 “Punk is no longer a four-letter word. It’s a three-letter word now.”

“All my religious beliefs are based on Star Wars.”

Mike Dirnt from Green Day

“Bands don’t do what we used to do. Bands don’t have the theatrics. We were lighting ourselves on fire. I had a chainsaw and cut a nun’s head off. You don’t see that shit at all anymore, which is kind of sad.”

 Vince Neil  Mötley Crüe frontman

 “From the beginning of time, the bad guys always had the best uniforms,” he explained to the Guardian. “Napoleon, the Confederates, the Nazis. They all had killer uniforms. I mean, the SS uniform is f***ing brilliant! They were the rock stars of that time. What’re you gonna do? They just look good.”

Lemmy Kilmeister Motörhead’s

After reading that, never mind.

Below is a simple explanation of what Cap and Trade is.  It removes all of the administration propaganda and cuts to the heart of what is involved in a “Cap and Trade System”.

Emissions trading (or emission trading) is an administrative approach used to control pollution by providing economic incentives for achieving reductions in the emissions of pollutants. It is sometimes called cap and trade.

A central authority (usually a government or international body) sets a limit or cap on the amount of a pollutant that can be emitted. Companies or other groups are issued emission permits and are required to hold an equivalent number of allowances (or credits) which represent the right to emit a specific amount. The total amount of allowances and credits cannot exceed the cap, limiting total emissions to that level. Companies that need to increase their emission allowance must buy credits from those who pollute less. The transfer of allowances is referred to as a trade. In effect, the buyer is paying a charge for polluting, while the seller is being rewarded for having reduced emissions by more than was needed. Thus, in theory, those who can easily reduce emissions most cheaply will do so, achieving the pollution reduction at the lowest possible cost to society.

Face Fwd Comments:

After researching the topic for several days, I am convinced that Cap and Trade will not only increase pollutants by allowing companies to simply buy the right to pollute, it will increase the amount we pay for energy and manufactured goods and further destroy our economy.  Can anyone honestly read the description above and say, “pollution will drop with this plan”?

No sane person wants to live in a world full of toxic waste.  I happened to have gown up in Los Angeles and now live in Houston so I understand what dirty air is all about.  I want clean air.  I want clean water.  However, I can find nothing in this bill that will soon be before the Senate that will provide that to me.  We already have environmental laws, why not just enforce what we already have? Why? Because the people that are pushing this bill are not friends of the environment as they pretend to be.

The people that are pushing this bill want to enslave the people of America by reducing the freedoms, capturing the economy, and owning the major manufacturing sector (look out aircraft).  Obama, Reed, Pelosi, Gore and the others will use this bill to dictate to companies what they can and cannot do and to fund the outlandish spending proposals before our elected representatives right now.

Each one of them have their own reasons for pushing the bill so hard.  Reed and Pelosi are after the power, Gore wants the money and recognition, not to mention retribution for the loss of an election.  But Obama is the scary one.  He has told the world that the US is an arrogant nation.  He has bowed down before Saudi Princes, he has embraced terrorist nations while denouncing our country’s major religion and he has buddied up to communist governments in Latin America.  All of these organizations have one thing in common, they hate our country and wish us harm.  While Obama has never said it in words, his actions say it loud and clear, “America, you have had it too good for to long and now it is time to bring you down to size and it is my destiny to do it.”

Don’t let Obama and the liberal administration take another step in repealing our freedoms. The Cap and Trade legislation is based on false science and is intended capture more of our liberty.   Stand up and say no.  Call, email and most importantly FAX your Senator and tell him/her “enough is enough and to vote no on the pending legislation.

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